Who would have thought?

[gryphonsegg]

I feel bad for all the Shakesville commenters who are shocked and disappointed to find out that Richard Dawkins is misogynistic and PZ Myers is not the greatest feminist ally, but I also kind of want to ask them what rock they've been living under. It's no secret that, for all his claims to be so very rational, Dawkins can be extremely irrational about his attempts to discredit, insult, and verbally smack down anyone whose opinions about anything--science, religion, feminism, etc.--differ from his own, and he has a history of trivializing sexual assault. As for Myers, well, being a good ally to feminism or to women means you don't use or condone the use of misogynistic slurs or stereotypes against any woman, even a woman who disagrees with you on a matter that you consider important.